Ed's ....Green bottles hanging on the wall!

[deafbred]

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[scotty]

Hey Corpuscles.
Maybe this is what you are after?

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@ DeafBred.
I think I see what you are saying.
Can we use that to aid the turning?
I'm hoping to get my coupling finished very soon, then I can assemble everything I have.
Cheers
Scotty.

[Corpuscles]

Thanks Scotty!

I would so much!!! like to read that book. What is the title and author ? (maybe I can hunt one down in a state library?

Deafbred & others this thread is about how the blocks were lifted and has nothing to do with flywheel except that it provided the electrical (magnetricity ) power!

Some may have noticed me elesewhere praise the poster ALLisONe... in a general discussion thread now ruined by a virus ?..and I suspect AIO won't be back?

Anyhow this doesn't exactly cover it , but for those who are prepared to think hard and follow this long thread then some might start to get what I am talking about. AIO deleted some of the real treasure(I don't know why?).I had very little to contribute to thread as I rarely ever post at ats only joined belatedly because of this thread.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread358046/pg1

Worth a read when you have time... just notice the AIO bits and ignor the maybe? apparent "arrogance"

[NetViewer2011]

OK!

Internally common AL foil...(tin is better).... bolt through the top (sealed) connected via wire to internal plate of "capacitor"

If possible, can you clarify this line with a diagram?
(Please correct me if I am wrong, but this is my understanding of the line you wrote.)
I take a flat disk made of AL or tin, put it on the bottom of the container. Then I connect to the center of the disk with a wire that is also connected to the bolt at the top.

[Corpuscles]

Netviewer

I admire your eagerness , and I mean no offence, but your posts tell me you are either young or very inexperienced with electricity?

The set up is a standard leydon jar.You can learn from the internet what it is and how to construct one. It is simply a capacitor.

I have expressed regret for even starting this thread. It was directed at the much more experienced posters.

AGAIN I WARN! be very very careful !!!! if you attempt this experiment. You can easily develop static discharges of 20,000 volts from a modest leydon jar... zap! ...and thats all folks!

In fact...FIRST stick to Ed's experiments ..... and only when you are very confident in handling electricity should you attempt what I have posted


Edit: The answer to your question. I meant Tin foil as opposed to Aluminium.Your supermarket will sell both!

Essentially a dielectric (glass).... scale about 1.5 not good but not bad! separated by two conductive media will store charge.

Wht this exeriment merely shows is that the resultant magnetic field (they always co exist but which is the "chicken "and which is the "egg"?)which is produced from artifically loading/charging
the external wall means it will interact naturallly with "Planet Earth's" magnetic field

[scotty]

Just make a Bonetti Machine....they are great fun when they fire up.
I blew a hole right through a plastic coffee container that I was using as a capacitor.
My machine can make a 4 inch spark at the moment.
Last weekend I found that if I put my head in a certain place near the machine I could feel the pressure in my hair...

I'm also thinking that if you only use 12 volts to charge the leyden jar then that's all you will store in the jar.
To get 20,000v you need a long wire in the air on a balloon ect, or you would need a Bonetti/Wimhurst type of static machine like mine.

The space between the plates is important too.
I've used thick glass jars and they didn't work.....too thin and you blow holes through them.
One time I had fine steel wool in the jar at the bottom to join the foil to the wire, and during experimenting the steel wool caught fire.... and of course you can't touch it because it's inside a charged up capacitor.....It's a very frantic time...
Now I put a course steel scour pad in the jars!
Scotty.

[Corpuscles]

Scotty

Could you please confirm that you received my my reply to your kind PM?

(I don't have difficulty PM'ing on other forums ....but this one is spooky!?)

Is Jeremy in Florida?... he doesn't seem to be around at all?

You are a nutcase.....I mean that .....in the nicest possible way


If you follow the instructions properly....and actually thought about it!!!.... 20,000 volts is a sinch!

Scuff your best rubber soled boots on a nylon ( hydrocarbon based) carpet and that will be what jumps out of your finger


Except for a reply from Scotty .....this thread is NOW CLOSED!


BUT....Does anyone get the feeling this site is under attack from folks who do not want the world to know?

[scotty]

Tell me about it.
I think they are after me!
During the last 3 weeks I've had tech guy's working on my computer and it still had problems.
I had my whole system re-done twice in the last 2 weeks, and finally yeaterday I got everything working properly.

Then today I come home and my modem is not working.....I ring the cable guy and he tells me there is a RF problem...so I need another tech guy...
So for the last 4 hours I've been watching the little green lights on my modem and finally just now they come alive.
sssshhheeeeezzzzz....gimme a break mate.
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Corpuscles.
I actually tried to scuff my feet and charge a wire wound capacitor but it didn't produce anything much.
I also rubbed myself on my trampoline and sent a spark into the outer winding of the cap but also there was not much in the cap after.
Because one end of the outer winding is not connected the magnets just go out in the air.
Anyway it was just a little test...nothing really thought about too much.
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Ed wrote about concentrating, dividing, then shifting the magnets from one place another.
The cap can concentrate. Just as the p/magnet is concentrated and the coil divides.
(the magnets are dividided into small path's in opposite directions in the coil)
Also the acid atoms in the battery can divide the magnets in the zinc and other materials.
Sending the magnets from one place to another can be done with wires ect, or magnetic/radio waves.

In a magnets generator we use the concentrate then we divide and shift.
My crystal radio divides first in the antenna and coil, then concentrates in the tuning cap and shifts them to the diode and ear piece.
We only need to make it permanent.

BTW Corps'
If I wasn't a nutcase I wouldn't do all the experiments that I do.
Unfortunately my day job keeps me in the realm of normality.
Scotty.

[rainmanf66]

ok im trying to understand if your trying to get me to build a capicator I have built and anti gravity lifter and it works like tim ventura's big ones its on utube titled rainmanferguson lifter that will pull it up it is a capicator and I studied the work of t townsend brown who basically said when a capicator is discharged abruptly the net force of the charges moving is always to the positive charged side. I can build a cap and ive seen tons of sparks so tell me this does it do somthing different than just store a charge and spark? I will take the time to build it and experiment but not just to see a spark I have a 20kv voltage supply a whimshirst and a vandagraffe if i want to see a spark. on the other hand if it does anything odder than that please let me know and i will build it. I need to know the connections for the wires on the outside of the bottle do they even hook to the anode or cathode? I could use a little more info on the wireing schematic if it was a layden jar it would be hook negative outside plate not wire(coil) and positive to the inside aluminium foil. from what ive studied so far and my understanding of energy flow my guess is the bottle may try to spin while current is hooked to its outside coil. I promise I will build the coil and post on utube if you tell me it does more than spark. The configuration I see Ed's as best i can tell is not used as a capicator.
P.S. if its spins its a poorly designed unipolar motor that cant spin because of the way its tied to the wires.
PLEASE RESPOND ,,,, ANYTHING rainmanf66@gmail.com if you would rather email me.
take care guys and have fun!

[scotty]

Hey Rainman, nice to meet you.
I agree about Ed's bottles.
They look like radio coils to me...and maybe frequency tuned as I don't see any taps on them.
Ed probably hung them in the rock so they can vibrate more easily.

Ed wrote "They are in constant motion, they are running one kind of magnets
against the other kind, and if guided in the right channels they possess perpetual power."

Ed has his bottles set into channels....and the bottles are tuned to channels, yes?
No point in not tuning them...to a channel.

Since Ed had the same radio theory as Tesla it is easy to say that Ed would be using a Tesla type system and sending electromagnetic pulses into the Earth....where they are wholly recoverable.
Only 5-10% of radio energy is sent into the air in that type of system.
That large coil Ed used could be for a frequency regulator, which is the same as Tesla used.
Here is a pic i made to compare them.

The small coils of Ed's that are wound on ceramics are actually resistors (i think)

Still...nobody knows for sure.
Scotty.
http://leedskalnin.net/
http://leedskalnin.net/bottles.htm